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Thread: Soon It's DA's Turn...
Date: Tuesday, 17 July 2007 04:29PM
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Quote: Posted 07/17/07 12:14 (GMT) by the-expatriate
Incredible, the length if time that Dragon Age will have been under developement.
How do you get that? When Dragon Age was announced as E3 in 2004 it was only being worked on by a handful of people and was in the early concepting stage still. Full-scale production probably didn't start until later that year if not 2005. Considering that NWN took 5 years to develop, the development time shouldn't be all that surprising -- especially considering that it's a game with a new engine.

If there's anything that's remarkable it's the amount of time that Dragon Age has been public. We don't usually announce a game so early, but the reasons we did so have been mentioned before many times. Even so, please don't get confused about the amount of time that you've known about the game and the amount of time it's been in development.
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Thread: Soon It's DA's Turn...
Date: Tuesday, 17 July 2007 11:00PM
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I don't know quite how to take all this malignment of character. I'll have you know I'm really just a big teddy bear. Wouldn't hurt a fly. Well, I might glare at one. Briefly. good smile
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Thread: Soon It's DA's Turn...
Date: Tuesday, 17 July 2007 11:19PM
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Well, Pliny the Elder and Isidore of Seville both thought unicorns were the fiercest creatures in the animal kingdom, picking fights with lions and elephants and goring them to death with their horns. . . If you substitute face-stabbing for that last part, and Stan for the lions and elephants, I can see where you're coming from . . .
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Thread: Soon It's DA's Turn...
Date: Tuesday, 17 July 2007 11:36PM
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Why do people keep talking about me? I can't help it if I'm cute!
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Thread: Soon It's DA's Turn...
Date: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 04:23PM
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Quote: DA was announced in 2002.

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Sorry, but a press release mentioning that we are working on an unnamed PC RPG is not the same as an announcement. When a game is announced we give its title and generally show something about it to the media. At that point in 2002, Dragon Age was more or less just a gleam in our eyes, practically speaking.

Of course what you're all basically saying is that, next time, we should keep any given title a secret until it's about ready to come out, lest you grow bored with the lack of constant updates and start writing the game off as vapourware. I suppose we'll have to take that into consideration next time.
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Thread: Soon It's DA's Turn...
Date: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 04:56PM
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But we do give you zombie kittens. That's gotta count for something.
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Thread: Soon It's DA's Turn...
Date: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 05:56PM
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Ah, yes. Two important things to remember when posting before I have my morning coffee:

1) Sweeping generalizations will be taken personally by everyone.

2) Amused sarcasm should be indicated as such by a clearly marked <amused sarcasm> tags.

Heh. Oh, I know that most of you will just put up with it however long it takes. All I meant to say is that when you get very bitter over the fact that we're not even trying to garner publicity for Dragon Age yet and wax poetic over how you're simply not interested in it any more and how it's surely never coming out at all -- well, that you're aware of the message you're sending. It's not our intention to deliberately frustrate fans, and the setup of this forum was a convenience so that forum-goers didn't need to discuss the game solely in Off Topic (and it's been handy for gathering ideas early on), but if we thought that announcing so early was actively detrimental we would probably simply stop doing it.
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Thread: Soon It's DA's Turn...
Date: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 06:21PM
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I am working on this "pie" of yours as we speak. It's. . . um. . . . apple. Really. The fact that it may meow and hunger for the brains of the living is entirely coincidental.
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Thread: Soon It's DA's Turn...
Date: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 06:24PM
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Quote: Posted 07/18/07 17:12 (GMT) by imported_beer
What about the rest of your forum? We never get any kudos. We demand pie.

Fine.

Here is your pie.

*splorch!*

Lesson of the day: never demand pie from the capricious without first specifying that you don't necessarily want it in the face.
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Thread: Soon It's DA's Turn...
Date: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 06:30PM
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This could get messy.
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Thread: Soon It's DA's Turn...
Date: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 11:47PM
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Quote: The time doesn't fare well to competitors either. NwN and morrowwind were released in the same year and the sequal to morrowind is already out over a year ago while dragon age is perhaps over 2 years away.

As has already been pointed out, the sequel to NWN has already come out. Dragon Age is not NWN2, as we've said many times, nor did the NWN team just all go over to DA when they were done. Things don't work like that.

Quote: Posted 07/18/07 19:36 (GMT) by The brother
The descision was made because if the game had been anounced at a date closer to it's release, i.e. this year then it would have been 5 years between the release of NWN and the confirmation of a new bioware PC game. This would have had a really bad effect on the company, it's pc fanbase would have deserted it and lost faith in it's new direction. The console ports would have sold a lot less and a lot of bioware fans who bought x-box's solely to play jade empire and Knights of the old republic probably wouldn't have either.

Certainly part of the decision was business-based, yes, but I'm not so sure the rest of it exactly follows unless your assumption is that the majority of our console sales for Jade Empire and KotOR came from our PC fans -- fans who, despite their outrage at us not developing another PC game were apparently okay with playing a console game anyhow?

Doesn't quite fit, but I suppose you can assume what you like. As I said, for the most part it was to assure those PC fans who don't play console games that there was, indeed, something new coming eventually for them as well. And there is.

Quote: Posted 07/18/07 19:13 (GMT) by The brother
So NWN started fullscale development in mid 1997 and was released in mid 2002? During which time Bioware completed Shatered steal, Baldurs gate, Tales of the sword coast, Baldurs gate 2, Throne of Bhaal, MDK 2. How long did these games take to Develop? and who exactly was working on nwn all that time?

You're probably right there. It was more like 4 years than 5, despite how often that gets thrown around. Huh. Weird how a span of time can seem like it's so much longer than it actually is.

Quote: I think the development time for Dragon age is quite long, can't help but notice how a few people from Bioware are quite touchy on this subject over the last couple of years.

Perhaps that's because of the vehemence that's involved when people try to throw this in our face. Why they do that, I'm not sure. You seem to be making a lot of assumptions about how we work, or how we should work, and then making accusations that we're... what? Lying? Falling to pieces and just afraid to admit it? A bunch of no-good incompetents working on vapourware? What? What are you trying to prove, exactly?

Bioware is a growing company and is handling multiple projects. The size of the DA team has varied a great deal -- when we say we're working on something, that can vary anywhere from one person working on concepting to a small group of programmers performing a demo to a whole team of 80 people.

All we've said is that we're working on the game -- yes, it is taking a while, but what does that mean, exactly? Does a game that takes less time make it better, necessarily? If we did take 7 years (God help me) to make a game, that would mean exactly... what?

It will come out, and we are working on it -- and when we start doing media for the game you will see all of it and then you can judge the end product all you like. I don't really know what more needs to be said than that.
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Thread: Soon It's DA's Turn...
Date: Thursday, 19 July 2007 04:20PM
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Quote: Posted 07/19/07 15:06 (GMT) by The brother

Quote: It is not like David Gaider rejected your advances

Oh he did but thats a whole other story

I'm just picky that way, I guess.
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Thread: Soon It's DA's Turn...
Date: Thursday, 19 July 2007 06:31PM
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Quote: Posted 07/19/07 01:35 (GMT) by jjkrogs
You know, I've often wondered who the hottie is in the background he's running to...
It's his mom, and he was supposed to be home an hour ago.
Quote: I also wonder why he didn't just meet her in the "Flaming Unicorn" pub he's passing, instead.
That's not a flaming unicorn. It's a vomiting beavercorn.
Quote: Instead, he's like all in a hurry and stuff...
Well, it's a school night. razz smile
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Thread: Soon It's DA's Turn...
Date: Monday, 23 July 2007 04:10PM
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And this has run it's course.....

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